Lost: the final season.
Ok, now’s your chance to look like a genius. What is your theory of the island? What is the smoke monster? Who is Jacob? What is going to happen after the bomb? How are all the loose ends going to be tied up?
*Kegen: Sorry to hijack your question Keenan, but it is such a great question that it prompts another, and that is-what are everyone’s wild guesses about next season? guesses based more on a feeling of the story than any specific evidence.
I have no Idea… I’m totally Lost after last night (pun intended).
I’m thinking the bomb is actually what causes “the incident,” like Miles was suggesting… and when it went off it sent the time travelers back to the “present.” It would just be too messy to let them change the past and undo the crash… although, maybe Jack will wake up in LA with a brand new 4×4 and his dad will be a successful science fiction writer.
The way I see it, the Jacob situation could be one of two things:
1. Jacob and the man we saw him with in 1845 are locked in a centuries old battle. Jacob is the ‘good guy.’ Jacob getting killed was a very bad thing, and we might want to hope the past got changed so that Jacob’s death can be undone.
2. Jacob and the man we saw him with are allies, both cursed figures who are doomed to live forever, unless the man in black can kill Jacob and release them both. They both want to die. This seems less likely considering Jacob more or less requested help from Ilana.
Some educated guesses:
-Jacob’s enemy has been residing in the cabin, bound inside by the ring of ash. This is why Locke heard a voice say “Help me” (help me kill Jacob). Once the ring of ash was broken, Jacob’s enemy could escape the cabin and assume another form. He left the cloth with the picture of the statue to mean “if you’re looking for me, this is where I’m going.”
-There may be some old Locke still within the imposter’s skin.
-The Incident plays out as it always have. Jack and company are the designers of their own fates, and nothing was changed. Whatever happened, happened.
One thing I feel I can say safely is that I don’t think we’re going to see John Locke murdered in a shitty L.A. hotel room in the middle of a season and have that be the end of it. Jacob’s enemy might be wearing his skin around for the forseeable future, but I do not think we’ve seen the last of our badass boar-killing hero Locke.
we have seen the last of living Locke. that is my position…………at the present.
The black haired dude, Jacob’s enemy, is totally the smoke monster who, as we know, dislikes people. He says, (not exact) “they bring fire, blood, and corruption” and, so I assume, that through Locke’s death he (jacob’s enemy/other ghosts/ black haired dude/smoke monster) has found his “loophole” and killed Jacob. Smoke Monster/Locke will now try to kill or cause the death of every single person on the island.
Jacob is the Good, who may or may not be dead. He appears to be tricky. He thinks that people are working toward peace and all the blood and fire are “just progress”. It is my belief, that Jacob used his enemy’s/black-haired man’s own wicked machinations against him, and through the power of choice we’ll find out who the real heroes are when………
sawyer, jack, a semi-healed sayid, kate, jin, sun, (hopefully not) bernard and rose, ben, hurley, miles, a desmond to appear later, and a juliet who appears later right when sawyer and kate are suckin’ face, all return. After the explosion, which they were meant to cause all along, they find themselves back in 2008 or whenever it is that jacob has just died in. They are the “they’re coming” Jacob was actually referring to (though he also means richard and the “good guys”).
I have no idea what Richard is going to do.
*Wild Guesses About Other Characters*
-Desmond will be used to bring Jacob back in some stupid time fart. Perhaps, Locke too.
-Widmore and Eloise are the next Bernard and Rose.
-Sayid redeems himself and becomes the good guy or, more likely, saves Ben’s life OR, even more likely, goes apeshit.
-Jin wants off the island when he finds out he has a daughter.
-Jack, in light of Locke’s note “I wish you would have believed me”, will follow ghost Locke/smoke-monster for at least 1/2 of the season.
-Hurley dies OR exhibits incredible bravery, and then dies.
-Sawyer gets fucked regardless (in both the literal and metaphorical sense).
-Ben gets his balls back.
ftw
******interesting thought: remember when Widmore tries to get ben to kill the baby……the smoke monster likes to kill babies….ben eventually did use the smoke monster and other types of deadly force……ben had a problem with Others under his leadership getting pregnant with babies…..maybe under the good leadership, which I’m sure will win out in the end, there will be a lot of baby making……that means one of two things: 1)softcore porn, 2) Season seven, the teenage years.
As, I’m drinking tequila…I don’t know about the island itself. I do think it’s meant to broadly represent earth and life’s struggles and realizations. I think the man in black IS the smoke monster. Jacob represents God. I don’t think either of them will die…but hopefully the man in black will die somehow. I don’t think Jacob actually died. I think the man in black’s loophole will be SCREWED by Jack putting that hydrogen bomb in the hole. I think all of our beloved characters (+Claire) will all end up in the same place at the same time…because I think the flash of light is yet another time traveling incident and not the bomb actually going off…more later.
First, tequila is delicious, good choice. Second, I think Kegen’s prognostication about Jack ill advisedly helping evil Locke is sure to come true, good call.
I think you’re both right about everyone eventually coming back to the island, alive or dead. The black guy that got shot helping Locke when he returned to the real word is Walt grown up.
Judging from other JJ Abrams projects like Alias and MI3, he loves to switch who’s good and who’s bad, therefore I’m going to go out on a limb and say Jacob is actually the bad guy.
i seriously considered jacob being the bad guy, but that first scene where he’s taking his time eating the fish and so on makes me think that he won’t be.
Yeah, you’re probably right, its hard to twist their conversation so that it makes sense that Jacob is clearly a “bad” guy.
That said, I’m thinking maybe the whole thing is something like an alien experiment, the man in black thinks he and Jacob are divine entities directly created by something like God, Jacob thinks they evolved from something like humans. It only has to happen once refers to humans reaching the level of enlightenment shared by Jacob and the man in black, the man in black thinks this is impossible, humans are helplessly flawed, but Jacob is determined to prove him wrong.
Keenan, I think you are talking about the plot of the up coming TCM blockbuster Titan…
Sorry, I know I have said this before but not to everyone so I’ll say it again. I don’t think Jacob is a bad guy. Yes, Nadia is probably dead because of him and a lot of people got screwed because of his plan but that’s life. He represents something much larger and important than a human, clearly. So, with that in mind, he touched everyone in a positive way to make sure they all got to the island…and he gave them a choice. Evil Locke (whom I believe to be the man in black and Jacob’s opposite) didn’t even give the illusion of choice to the people he interacted with. He just brought about doubt, anger and murder. I’m also still open to the idea the man in black is probably the smoke monster…taking the form or vision of Echo’s brother, Ben’s daughter, Jack’s dad, maybe even Claire? And all of those incidents were really creepy…
Has Jacob touched everyone in a positive way? By covering for Kate when she got caught stealing, he prevented her from feeling the repercussions of her actions, therefore enabling her to more easily steal down the road. He provided the pen to Sawyer that enabled him to write the letter that fostered a festering hatred in him. While he may have saved Locke’s life, he left him a miserable cripple. I’m not so sure these acts can’t be interpreted as “bad”, or at least self serving in that they all eventually lead those people to the island.
Yea, tequila is delicious and my ringtone and the guess about Locke is a nice one. Maybe…keeping in mind I think the man in black has taken over Locke’s body…he will take over someone else.
fact: the man in black is the smoke monster (credit: KDB). I also think that in order to inhabit a body for any substantial amount of time (or controllable amount of time) that person had to die off island and be brought back. sounds silly i know but it seems the bodies that the smoke monster has inhabited for long periods are locke and jack’s dad… both died off island.
also, its clear that as the smoke monster takes on these forms, he inherits those people’s memories too. Therefore, good call whoever said that there is a little lock left sharing the shell that the MIB is wearing around. I think he may even start fighting against him for control or something… but that would be pretty weird, and I’m not sure I’d like it.
… more later
so calls for next season… i think desmond is the key: he is the only one that can change the past, or have the past change present him… or whatever… he moves freely in the flow of time while the others do not. (IMO)
desmond will do something amazingly heroic to save the day and make everything right with the world.
the flash at the end was another time warp and the time travelers are now back in their present day. one of the first things jack and sawyer will see will be juliet’s body in the crater that is presently where the hatch was… or maybe they will all be in the crater.
we will see flash-backs to the day they got on the plane throughout the season. it will end with a flash-back of them getting on the plane… maybe some shaking and a flash and then a close-up of jack’s eye. as it pulls out we see that he was dreaming and is still on the plane… the pilots voice comes over the radio - “we are preparing for landing now at L.A. International… please fasten seatbelts and put up your fuckin trays or whateva…” booya - credits
or maybe leave it even more of a cliffhanger… turbulence flash credits… but either way it will end with them on the plane again.
sayid will be a hero, locke will come back to life, jack will finally measure up to his own expectations and everything will be sunny shiney.
I don’t think it’s a fact that the smoke monster is Jacob’s nemesis. It’s very possible, but I don’t think it’s definite. My guess is that we won’t find out what the smoke monster really is until the final episode of the show.
Interesting call. I think you have some excellent logic here. My question is will they remember? I hope they do, in the end all we have is our memories.